¿Qué esconde SEAT para Frankfurt?
Iniciado por FPI, 26 August 2011 a las 19:55
Seat Exeo | 252
Si es del tamaño del concept del Skoda, me inclino por el Córdoba. El nuevo Toledo debería de tener el tamaño del Exeo/Jetta.
Seat exeo tsi | Madrid | 347
Lo importante, al margen de plataformas, es que sus dimensiones sean inferiores a las del Jetta para que objetivamente, y a ojos de cualquier potencial comprador, quede claramente posicionado por debajo del Exeo. No creo que sea recomendable que supere en longitud al antiguo Toledo (4,46 m) para que se abra un hueco bien marcado con el Exeo. Además, una berlina de segmento C no debería ser más grande. Un saludo
Volkswagen VW Golf 7 | Salamanca | 335
Creo que lo que saque seat en Frankfurt sera primo hermano de este:
Seat exeo st | Vizcaya | 9.519
Y de ese mismo Link>>>Creo que lo que saque seat en Frankfurt sera primo hermano de este:
Estos COMENTARIOS:
#11 gabruto hoy a las 18:33
segun seat que lanzara el toledo en 2013 sera identico a este pero con el logo de seat y un maletero enorme sera el mismo concepto que el primer toledo de 1991 que fue un exito
#10 jose f hoy a las 18:24
un exeo retocado.- Oginales lo del grupo vag. VAGos.
#9 Anónimo hoy a las 18:20
La línea lateral de éste coche me recuerda al Toledo que se vendía en el 2.000.Y el morro es una copia del nuevo Passat.
#8 Mm hoy a las 17:51
Y yo que creía que era el nuevo Skoda Octavia y ahora parece ser que se situara entre el Fabia y Octavia, hablan que si el Exeo desfasado, el León bueno cuando le llegue el sustituto al León será todo nuevo al igual que el futuro Exeo, pero no os habéis dado cuenta de que el Octavia es el mismo coche de hace muchos años fijaros en todos los Octavia y son idénticos desde el modelo del 2001 al actual y son 10 años.
Seat exeo sport 2.0 tsi | Navarra | 2.694
No se pero la verdad es que no me esta gustando NADA lo que esta haciendo VW. primero fue el Passat 3C al meterle una plataforma del Golf 5 Alagada en vez de continuar con la del A6 que usaba el Passat 3BG.... y ahora parece que el futuro Skoda Octavia y el Seat Toledo van a llevar la plataforma del Polo Sedan en vez de seguir con la del Golf? O_o
Para los que no sepan de lo que hablo ilustremos.
Seat exeo st | Vizcaya | 9.519
Frankfurt Motor Show Preview: Part 1 Paddy Comyn
Next week the Motors team will travel to Frankfurt for the IAA Frankfurt Motor Show. But as so often is the case these days, we know a lot of what you can expect to see in advance. So here is the first part of our preview of what you will see at the show. We will bring you coverage next week of the show live from Frankfurt.
Porsche 911
Yes it is a new Porsche 911 and as usual it is hard to tell. We never really expected Porsche to break the mould with another new 911 and predictably enough it looks very similar to the cars from the last ten years. It does have a 100mm longer wheelbase and the front and rear overhangs are shorter than before. There is a wider front track too. There are uprated engines too, with the Carrera powered by a new 3.4-litre engine developing 350hp, with the Carrera S moving up to 400hp from the 3.8-litre. The new car is lighter than before too, weight is reduced by up to 45kg in some cases, yet despite this the rigidity is improved. Just two Porsche were registered in 2011 so far, so there won’t be too much demand for the 911, but if you do want one they will be available from December for our market.
Porsche 911: Faster, lighter, cleaner. Chevrolet Malibu
Chevrolet is well and truly off the radar in Ireland these days, despite still offering a few models for sale. There might be better news on the horizon with the Chevrolet Malibu, which is a car that has been on sale in the US for some time. The Malibu will be available with a choice of four-cylinder petrol and diesel engines, although here in Ireland if we do get the Malibu then it will probably be only available with the 2.0-litre diesel. We can expect the Malibu to be pretty unremarkable and soggy to drive, but loaded with equipment and good value.
[img width=400 height=231]https://www.irishtimes.com/blogs/motors/files/2011/09/Chevrolet_Malibublog.jpg Chevrolet Malibu: Europe bound
Volkswagen Up
We’ve already driven the Up, but it makes its debut at the Frankfurt Motor Show where we should get more details regarding performance figures and emissions. We do know that the Up comes to Ireland in December as a three-door with a five-door following on later in 2012. An electric version will go on sale in 2013, but for now the Up is powered by a 1.0-litre three-cylinder engine putting out either 60- or 75hp and this will mean emissions of less than 100g/km. The Up will cost €10,800 when it goes on sale.
[img width=400 height=257]https://www.irishtimes.com/blogs/motors/files/2011/09/VW_upblog.jpg Volkswagen Up: Coming to Ireland in early 2012 priced from €10,800 Kia to take on the BMW M5
It is hardly a surprise that Kia’s chief designer Peter Schreyer would want to delve into more adventurous territory with Kia design but the news that they are set to reveal a four-door coupé has raised a few eyebrows, as has the news that it could have performance to rival a BMW M5. We will wait and see, but it is a real signal of intent by the Korean brand that they might move into the executive market. We know that we will see some of the first performance Kia cars in 2012 when the Cee’d and Rio get turbocharged petrol engines.
[img width=400 height=181]https://www.irishtimes.com/blogs/motors/files/2011/09/Kia_Conceptblog.jpg Kia four-door coupé concept: Just build it Kia! Audi Urban Concept
Audi will have a busy Frankfurt Motor Show and one of their more interesting concept cars will be the radical Urban Concept, which is a two-seater electric car. There will be two versions of this concept, one a hardtop and the other a roadster. Built around a carbonfibre monocoque, this car will seat two and power is expected to come from a pair of electric motors and a battery pack. The Audi will compete with the BMW i3 as a small, ‘affordable’ electric car if it gets the green light for production.
[img width=400 height=256]https://www.irishtimes.com/blogs/motors/files/2011/09/Audi_Urban_Spyderblog.jpg Audi Urban Spyder Concept: two-seater EV Jaguar C-X16
The C-X16, which is expected to become the Jaguar XE, the spiritual replacement to the E-Type will be a rival to the Porsche Boxster and this is expected to be one of the stars of the Frankfurt Motor Show. The XE is not likely to go on sale until late 2012 and while it is likely that there will be a V6 engine under the bonnet there is also speculation of a turbocharged four-cylinder engine, mated to an eight-speed automatic gearbox and stop-start technology. A V8 engine is likely to feature in the R model.
[img width=400 height=170]https://www.irishtimes.com/blogs/motors/files/2011/09/Jaguar_C-X16blog.jpg Jaguar C-X16 - expect to become the Jaguar XE. Opel Zafira
The new Opel Zafira makes its debut at the Frankfurt Motor Show and the car has grown in size and now sits on a longer wheelbase (+57mm) and has a significantly wider front and rear track. With 65-litres more Bootspace than the model it replaces in 5-seat format, this 710-litres can expand out to a massive 1,860-litres with all of the seats folded flat. The new car features all-new styling, very much in line with the most modern of the range. There are distinctive twin boomerang graphics at the front and the now familiar Opel centre crease and trapezoidal grille. Opel’s Flex7 seating system, which has always been a clever system, is now upgraded to provide even more functionality.
The 3rd row can be folded flat and the 2nd row has been redesigned. Instead of a bench seat in the 2nd row, there are three individual seats that can be folded flat and individually moved. There is now an optional Lounge Seating system, which Opel say will offer “limousine-like space and comfort” and with this option the back of the middle seat folds down and turns into an armrest. The outer seats can also slide towards the centre of the car. There will be a range of new storage solutions including the FlexConsole, which is a modular and moveable storage box.
The choice of engines in the new model is going to consist of three outputs of the 2.0-litre CDTI with 110hp, 130hp or 165hp or two outputs of the 1.4-litre turbocharged petrol version with 120hp or 140hp. There will now be Stop/Start technology to keep fuel economy and emissions low, although we haven’t seen figures on this yet.
[img width=400 height=267]https://www.irishtimes.com/blogs/motors/files/2011/09/Opel_Zafira_1blog.jpg Opel Zafira: We will be driving it after the Frankfurt Motor Show Hyundai i30
We are well used to getting impressive new product from Hyundai these days and while we won’t yet see a new Santa Fe as first expected, we will get a heavily revised new i30, which will be a proper rival to the Ford Focus and Volkswagen Golf. Adopting much of the styling of the recently arrived i40, the new i30 gets a large hexagonal front grille, angular headlamps and distinctive LED daytime running lights. There is a sportier stance on the new car than before and the aim has been to give the car a stronger personality. The boot space will increase slightly in the new car, adding to versatility. There will be six engines revealed in the line up – three petrol and three diesels and power is expected to vary from 89 to 133hp. We can expect sub-100g/km emissions from the i30 Blue. The new range goes on sale in the first quarter of 2012.
[img width=400 height=172]https://www.irishtimes.com/blogs/motors/files/2011/09/Hyundai_i30.jpg Hyundai i30: set to trouble the Ford Focus and VW Golf even further. Audi A2
Many of you will remember, some of you perhaps even owned an Audi A2, the all-aluminium car that was way ahead of its time. Well Audi is set to reintroduce the A2 and the four-seater is set to make its debut at the Frankfurt Motor Show. The A2 will probably share some links with the A1, but we can expect LED headlights and perhaps even an electric powertrain on the show car, which will be 26mm shorter, 17mm wider and 63mm lower than the original A2.
[img width=400 height=250]https://www.irishtimes.com/blogs/motors/files/2011/09/Audi_A2blog.jpg Audi A2: Take 2 Toyota Avensis
The ever popular Toyota Avensis will get its mid-life refresh at the Frankfurt Motor Show as it tries to beat back competition from the likes of Hyundai with its recently-released i40 and Kia’s forthcoming Optima. This new Avensis will feature new exterior styling, as well as some changes to the interior to improve the look and feel.
[img width=400 height=193]https://www.irishtimes.com/blogs/motors/files/2011/09/Toyota_Avensisblog.jpg Toyota Avensis: Facelift and interior changes Skoda MissionL Concept
As if Skoda weren’t making enough of a nuisance of themselves, now they are set to really worry the Volkswagen Golf and Ford Focus with a new close-to-production concept called the MissionL. The new compact five-door will be launched in Europe, Russia and China and is likely to be called the ‘Lauretta’ and it is expected to fill the gap between the Fabia and Octavia in Skoda’s range. The car will have similar dimensions to the Golf and Focus and given Skodas current form we would expect it to be rather good.
[img width=400 height=280]https://www.irishtimes.com/blogs/motors/files/2011/09/Skoda_Concept.jpg Skoda MissionL: set to bridge gap between Fabia and Octavia Fuente>>> https://www.irishtimes.com/blogs/motors/2011/09/06/frankfurt-motor-show-preview/
Volkswagen VW Golf 7 | Salamanca | 335
Es lo que llevaba leyendo en seatfanclub desde hace mucho, y ya lo dije por aqui, que tanto el Skoda como el seat seran berlinas low cost sobre todo para mercados emergentes, con la plataforma del polo, o sea que aunque se llame toledo, vendra siendo mas bien un cordoba para que nos vayamos entendiendo...
Seat exeo tsi | Madrid | 347
Es lo que llevaba leyendo en seatfanclub desde hace mucho, y ya lo dije por aqui, que tanto el Skoda como el seat seran berlinas low cost sobre todo para mercados emergentes, con la plataforma del polo, o sea que aunque se llame toledo, vendra siendo mas bien un cordoba para que nos vayamos entendiendo...
Creo que todo apunta a eso. Definitivamente. Si hubieramos descartado que se va a llamar "Toledo", quizá se acabaran los problemas. El Toledo "atacaba" la zona alta del segmento C y éste se centraría en la zona más baja, tanteando con el segmento B. Además, Seat es especialista precisamente en estas "ambivalencias". Eso sí, estaría bien un buen ejercicio de personalización por parte de Seat para que el coche tenga identidad propia, no como otros productos "conjuntos" como el Alhambra.
Un saludo
Seat exeo st | Vizcaya | 9.519
Bien explicado y de acuerdo con el planteamiento... sobre todo con el de "identidad propia"Creo que todo apunta a eso. Definitivamente. Si hubieramos descartado que se va a llamar "Toledo", quizá se acabaran los problemas. El Toledo "atacaba" la zona alta del segmento C y éste se centraría en la zona más baja, tanteando con el segmento B. Además, Seat es especialista precisamente en estas "ambivalencias". Eso sí, estaría bien un buen ejercicio de personalización por parte de Seat para que el coche tenga identidad propia, no como otros productos "conjuntos" como el Alhambra.
Un saludo
Seat Exeo | 381
Van a dejar por los suelos el nombre de Toledo... aun confio en que ese coche, cuando lo saquen a la venta no le llamen Toledo.
Volkswagen VW Golf 7 | Salamanca | 335
por lo que veo esto es lo ultimo que se sabe, ni toledo ni nada de momento, solo un concept, que se llamara ibl, como un ibe largo
https://www.seatfansclub.com/2011/09/2-dias-para-el-salon-el-concept-se.html
Seat Exeo | 381
Seguramente tengas razon y sea Cordoba, Toledo o Cuenca lo presentaran con un motor electrico (esta de moda), pero cuando salga a la venta sera con motores convencionales. Total, no deja de ser un concep o prototipo.
Como ya puse un par de paginas mas atras, solamente es un prototipo/concep. Ni Cordoba, ni Toledo, ni Galicia ni Santander!! jejejeje...
Seat exeo st | Vizcaya | 9.519
Ahora mismo no "chuta" (funciona) el link, probare mas tardepor lo que veo esto es lo ultimo que se sabe, ni toledo ni nada de momento, solo un concept, que se llamara ibl, como un ibe largo
https://www.seatfansclub.com/2011/09/2-dias-para-el-salon-el-concept-se.html
No se encuentra la página. Lo sentimos, la página que estabas buscando en el blog SEATFANSCLUB.com no existe.
Este si chuta>>> https://www.seatfansclub.com/
Por cierto siguen denominandolo TOLEDO
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-qOkAgiTftjg/Tmuo83DWqmI/AAAAAAAACTM/1EYbaG1N4Gs/s1600/BL.bmp
Seat Exeo | 381
Segun pone, mide 4'67m, 10cms mas que un EXEO berlina. Si eso es cierto, empieza a cuadrarme que sea el hipotetico futuro TOLEDO. Parece que el tiempo empieza a darme la razon...
Seat exeo | Valencia | 6.442
Segun pone, mide 4'67m, 10cms mas que un EXEO berlina. Si eso es cierto, empieza a cuadrarme que sea el hipotetico futuro TOLEDO. Parece que el tiempo empieza a darme la razon...
Que yo recuerde el Exeo mide 4,66.
Seat Exeo | 381
Que yo recuerde el Exeo mide 4,66.
Alomejor estoy equivocado, pero creo que el EXEO berlina mide 4'58m y el ST 4'66m. Si estoy equivocado corregirme!!
Seat exeo tdi | Álava | 11.781
Alomejor estoy equivocado, pero creo que el EXEO berlina mide 4'58m y el ST 4'66m. Si estoy equivocado corregirme!!
Exeo berlina 4,661
Exeo st 4,666
Salu2
Seat exeo | Valencia | 6.442
El st no lo recuerdo, pero el berlina 4,66 seguro 100%.
Seat Exeo | 381
Alomejor estoy equivocado, pero creo que el EXEO berlina mide 4'58m y el ST 4'66m. Si estoy equivocado corregirme!!
Exeo berlina 4,661
Exeo st 4,666
Salu2
Cierto. Lo acabo de mirar en el catalogo y tienes razon...
Seat exeo sport 2.0 tsi | Navarra | 2.694
Y dale.... A ver si nos queda claro de que el EXEO ES SEGMENTO D Y EL TOLEDO C JODER. Que ai alguno que no se entera. Se habla también de que esta foto no es del futuro Toledo si no de un posible Exeo Nuevo 2013.... NO hagáis pajas mentales por que todavía NO HAY COMUNICADO OFICIAL y decir que esto es el Toledo 2012 es aventurarse MUCHO.